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Rodent Control Q & A – Wood Radio – Grand Rapids

Rodent Control Q & A – Wood Radio – Grand Rapids


When we come back, we’re talking about stuff
that gives me the jimmy legs, Betsy. Do you know what the jimmy legs are? Yes, I do. Your legs keep twitching because you can’t
handle the thought on whatever you’re thinking. Uh-huh (Affirmative) Well anyway, one of those things is mice in
the house. Yes. It’s fall and they’re looking for a place
to stay this winter. Let’s make sure they don’t choose your home
or mine. Yes. That’s next. Stay tuned. If you want to take your DIY skills up a rung,
the Recolight Home Improvement Show is here to give you a boost on Newsradio WOOD  1300
and. 106.9FM. Well, Betsy, we’re sitting here with David
Popp, the district manager at Rose Pest Solutions and we always bring David here when we have
a pest problem to discuss. Yes, we do. David, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. It’s great to be back. A couple of years ago, I told this … Well,
there’s no real story here. There is a story, but it’s too dark to go
into. A couple of years ago, I had … It was dark,
Betsy. Don’t “Good grief” me. A couple of years ago, in our house, we had
mice get into the attic. I never had anything like that before and
I felt completely invaded. I felt like they completely grossified my house. I couldn’t even live there anymore. I just envisioned an army of millions of mice
running around the upstairs. I was stunned because I thought everything
was pretty sealed up. I kind of had paid attention looking for that. So, I guess just to help anybody out there
and to save them from the drama that my family went through- [crosstalk] Because it is that time of year. It is that time of year. The mice are looking for places. How tightly sealed do we have to have our
homes to keep them out? Well, mice, they can fit in about a quarter-inch
hole. So, anything really that you can put a pencil
through, mice are gonna be able to- [crosstalk] A pencil? Oh, yeah. How do they get their little heads through
that? They squeeze. So, they can actually fit it through there,
their skulls. A pencil? Yeah. That’s terrifying. The best thing you can do is, for instance,
just to go down into your basement, shut off all the lights. Okay. See if you can see any light coming through
around window areas, around where plumbing comes in, wires, things like that. If you can see light, then that’s probably
enough room for them to get in. So, what happened with my house when I dug
into it, I found … Way up in the garage, in the rather area, they had tunneled through
the insulation into the attic. They had climbed a wall that I thought … It
was smooth and it was a laminated material. I, honestly, don’t know how they did it. They have little suction cups on their feet. They can scale. They can scale the walls. I remember way back when, 30+ years ago when
I was a technician, going around and treating the outside of somebody’s house. Going around the corner, you know how you
just all of a sudden … Right there, there’s something? Mm-hmm (affirmative). And it was a mouse that made me jump. Now, here’s a pest- Did you scream? Well, I didn’t scream but I did jump. [crosstalk ] I would’ve screamed and jumped. Yes, you would. So, you see him sitting there. He was climbing a wall or something? He was climbing up. This happened to be brick, a little more traction,
but they will do that. They’ll scale and find an area that they can
get into. So, you mentioned the garage. A garage is an area where a lot of the times,
we have our garage doors open, either a service door or a pane door. Well, yeah. My kids leave the garage door open all the
time. I was going to ask about that. Yeah, that’s … They can enter in. That’s an easy way for them to enter in. And then once they get into the garage, they
can find those areas for access to the living quarters, the basement or the main areas. So, garages are very very important to seal
up. So, what do I do? So, I can try to train the children to close
the garage door. That’s monumental. I’m not expecting you to help me with that. Do you have anything that will help me train
my children? Nothing that you offer? No, nothing that we offer. Okay. Maybe some good advice later, but let’s say
we get that. I know that I’ve got areas where if I would
sit in the garage with the lights off, I’m gonna see pencil-thick areas around the garage
door. How do I seal? Well, the door itself, you can get the weather
stripping still on the garage door. A lot of times, where you’ll have your issue
is it might be that the concrete might not be level. So, when the door comes down onto it, you
may be able to see an area where they can get through. You may have to extend that weather stripping
down there, but anything you can do to do it. Around the corners are big areas for the mice
to enter in there too. Okay. What about … You were talking about in the
basement if you see daylight coming through. If you see a crack or a small hole or something
where there is daylight, what do you fill that with? Because I’ve heard that they will chew through
certain things but not other things. So, what do you recommend filling those gaps
with? The best thing you can do for rodents is a
copper mesh. Don’t use steel wool because when still will
gets wet, it rusts. Then all of a sudden, it would go on your
wall, wherever it may be, the siding, but the copper mesh is the best. They don’t like to mess around with that,
then tuck it in. Calk is still one of our best friends when
it comes to sealing to make sure that they don’t get through. So, they don’t chew through that. They’ll leave that alone? If there may be separation where they see
an area that they can continue to make the hole larger, then they’ll do something like
that, but the copper mesh is the best, still. Now, will you come out and help us seal the
home? Sure. Yep. [crosstalk ] Oh, that’s something that you guys will do. Yep, we will do that. If it’s a major undertaking as far as … or
you really need to have a carpenter or builder involved, we won’t do that but simple exclusion
work like putting copper mesh and things like that and calk, we can do that. You’re referencing my garage. That’s for me to take care but for the little
stuff, you’ll take care of that. Alone with mice, I know that shrews, voles
… Do they also come into people’s houses? They’re gonna pretty much stay outside. They’re gonna stay outside? Oh, they will? [ANNCR]  The main ones that you really need
to be concerned about is the house mouse and the deer mouse. The deer mouse is of concern because of hantavirus. Their droppings and their urine can carry
hantavirus. Now, there’s only been one case that I’m aware
of. I think it’s as of hantavirus in Michigan,
but if you look at the map, out West is where there really is a large problem with it but
moving in. So, you never know. Deer mice are … You want to be careful with
that. How do you know what kind of mouse you have? Well, the deer mice have antlers, right? Yeah, and then it helps Santa. No, a deer mouse versus a house mouse is color,
number one. Mm-hmm (affirmative). The house mouse is more gray uniformed all
the way around but a deer mouse would be gray with potentially reddish, but underneath is
white. Oh. The other way you can tell is their tail. A house mouse has, for a lack of a better
word, a partially naked tail whereas, on a deer mouse, it’s all fur all through there. So, deer mice, they’re gonna be somewhat like,
for instance, in garages, sheds. They’re not going to be as common in the house,
but they do come in but more or less on outbuildings. All right, David. So, in the last little bit, let’s say I don’t
get to it in time. I don’t seal up the whole house and I end
up noticing partway through winter little droppings, things I don’t want to see on the
counter or in drawers or something. Now, I got a problem. What’s the best way to get rid of them? Well, before you start thinking about getting
rid of them, one thing to understand is if you see mouse droppings in a drawer and in
the silverware drawer next to it, you don’t see any droppings, don’t discount of because
of their urine. They’re going to put a number of urine deposits
all the way around in the areas that they go to. Wash your silverware if you got them around
and close by that. So, they make the route? Do they go all over the place? Yes, they do. And I’m not even seeing it? Well- [crosstalk ] Could I see with it with a black light? You can see it with a blacklight. Oh, I am never- [crosstalk ] Oh, investing in a blacklight. Okay. So first, wash everything. Wash my silverware. Oh, yeah. In the containers and where you got the silverware
in there and … That is so foul. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. And the entire counter and … So, okay. We get it clean. What’s the best method to get them out for
good? The best way, still to this day, is a snap
trap. The snap traps work wonders. Baiting them with peanut butter, you can even
bait them with cloth because of helping them… they’ll look for things like that for nesting
material. Oh, okay. But peanut butter is still one of the best
ones, but I’d be concerned if somebody has a peanut allergy. You can use … There are peanut substitutes
that you can use out there. The mice don’t care? The mice don’t care, but the best thing when
you have that spring trap is you bait it underneath the pad so they really have to work at it,
and it gets them. It’s still the best trap that there is. Yeah, because my dad has baited them before
and they licked the stuff off and the trap never snaps. Well, put it underneath. Yeah. That’s a way better idea. And make them work. All right, David. If our listeners have any questions for you
or maybe they want you to come out and take care of a rodent problem that they might have- Or stop a problem from occurring. Right. That too. How do they best get in contact with you? Well, they can call our office at 861-653-4549
— or they can to our website. It’s rosepestsolutions.com. Perfect. David Pop, thank you so much for being here
to talk about these nasty little creatures with us. You bet.

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